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verlch
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 Posted - 09/29/2004 : 23:50:05 [Permalink]
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Filthy I salute your service and am proud to have you as a memeber of this great nation. I'm sorry that you are disabled, and thank-you for your service and our freedoms we have by you and other military mens contributions!
As for Kerry's appearence if he can get the job done I'm all for it! It's my thoughts about his stance on abortion and his flip flop on the issues. Plus with his military service I am confused as to what the truth is. Bush isn't perfect on military issues, just it seems he has remained in silence and hasn't boasted as did Kerry! Kerry also tries to court the radical feminist agenda and to attract the woman vote. It seems to be a platform of blazing through the glass ceiling, more woman on corporate boards, pro-abortion, womens salaries and many others. I believe in equal pay for equal work and women seem to take time off for babies, less hours worked, time off for various needs of which I'm not against. But equal pay comes with sacrificing self for work, not self first. Equal pay needs to be paid on merit, not political correctness. Just look at the lawsuits, like every female worker at Walmart sueing for perceived wrongs, amounting to 1.6 million women. The bible calls women to be homemakers and builders of strong families. Loving mothers giving of self for husband, children and family. Women in the workforce for nothing more than self happiness so they can feel good and buy things they couldn't afford is a sham on the children. Children need a mother and father, a mother to give warmeth and a father to give rules and guidelines. I don't think Bush cares if women work or not, I think Kerry is firmly in the independent feminist elite voting booths. Therefore with my set of beliefs I cannot vote for a man that wants to give merit where merit is not due, simply for the sake of buying votes. Women should only work if no man is found to bring home the bacon. My wives are where unruly in the home, and out of desperation I sent them to work. Not for need, but because they had a belief structure not based in the way God. God put the family stucture to work in the start of this world!
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Men are called to love their wives as Christ loves the church.
http://www.patriarchspath.org/Articles/Docs/Busybodies.htm
This is the way of marriage between a man and woman. My lot in life is to till the soil, work to bring home the bread, to a woman who will not cause strife with me, but will adore my hard work and willingness to protect her with my life. Where are these good women? That I might work, not in vain, but Godliness. Who wants to be threatened by divorece monthly and still have to work yourself for naught and for a woman that doesn't support your hard work?
I am the rooster of this hen, in my house. I have to be submissive to Christ, and the women submissive to me. This modern era, this world needs another tax paying woman. I think take back womans right to vote and put them back to take care of house and home, of upright men and gentlemen. This country will be better than ever! Chaos will not be rampant, and happiness and fulfillment with bless this nation! Broken homes seem not to help anybody. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 06:58:15 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
Men are called to love their wives as Christ loves the church.
And to not divorce them, hypocrite. Start living the Bible, verlch, before you preach it. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 07:46:26 [Permalink]
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Hmm. verlch and I can agree, here and there.
Although I am pro-choice in just about everything, I dislike abortion. This we share with Kerry who also finds it abhorent. However, we and he follows the law of the land and the will of the majority of it's population. If I had the final say of it, I'd swallow my dislike and support it.
But I'll make you a small wager; even in a second term, Bush won't touch the issue. Neither will anyone else. Polititions like to talk big, but rarely will they willingly pick up something that hot.
As for Kerry bragging about his service, if bragging it was, I think that was a stratigic mistake. However, it all went down as described in his military records, the Swift Boat Nitwits to the contrary. Bush says nothing about his service because he did not perform very much (and it seems that even that is in doubt) and there's little to say.
Me, I tell no war stories. Those memories remain mine own. But I appreciate your comments.
Rather than get into yet another pointless fracas with you, I'll pass on the woman comments. 'K?
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 08:16:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
The 'Lord of the Flies' will soon have one language, one religion (Roman catholic, ruled by illumanti), one bank, one government (UN controlled by elitists of all creeds) , one taxation system, one currency. This is exactly the way it was before the tower of Babel!
I'll put aside for a moment the tired claim about what it was like "before the tower of Babel" (like you'd know!), and ask you, verlch: who has your vote in the election?
Edited to add: I get a confused stance from you. On the one hand, you're against the moves towards a tighter control of this country by the elites-- i.e. the present administration, but then you're all about Kerry-and-feminists and how bad that is. So in the end, what's worse for you? |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 08:21:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
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Somewhere in the past there is family history between Kerry and Bush. Goes way back.
Woah, another assertion... what a surprise
Actually, the New York Times ran a story a few Sundays ago noting that the two are actually related! something like 9th cousins twice removed or some such. This of course doesn't mean that the two are in collusion or anything, but there is, in fact, a family history between them... |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 08:29:14 [Permalink]
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| I think membership in Skull and Bones is more condusive to collusion than 9th cousins. (I dont know any non-geneologist who could name one of their 9th cousins) The Skull and Bones thing bothers me to no end though. If we allow our Presidents to be members of elitist secret societies were sure to be screwed by someone eventually. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 09:15:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
I think membership in Skull and Bones is more condusive to collusion than 9th cousins. (I dont know any non-geneologist who could name one of their 9th cousins) The Skull and Bones thing bothers me to no end though. If we allow our Presidents to be members of elitist secret societies were sure to be screwed by someone eventually.
Shit, Big Papa; we're gonna get screwed anyway. Thus it has always been and will be. The only question is the quality of the lubricant.
I refuse to elevate Skull and Bones to any status beyond a college 'secret' society, only different from a myriad of others in that some famous and infamous individuals were members. True, it forms lifetime bonds between members, but in the end it is the moral and ethical aspects of a person's charector that will control his actions.
Let us not give S&B more than it is due. We really don't need a sort of a reverse Illuminati conspiricy theory, although I'm sure quite a few are out there.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 11:34:15 [Permalink]
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And more and more, insurance premiums are putting health care out of the reach of the people who need it the most.
I myself, as a disabled veteran, get it all done for free (except nose jobs, etc.). I am currently all but house-bound and am due for yet more surgery next year on a service-related condition. I know all too well the value of health care. I'd be dead or in a charity asylum without it -- to me, the same, damned thing.
Alas, I know what you mean. I've arthritis since I was 8 months old (I'm 19) and I've endured my first surgery when I was four. Sadly, Brazil doesn't have a free health care program, nor intends on having one anytime soon. My mother (a single parent and hard worker) had to pay for my first (and presently only) surgery. I'm stuck in a wheelchair, and have been since I was very young.
It's a shame we've to pay for highly expensive treatment, surgeries, physical exams, physiotherapy and the like - they consume a great amount of our income and my father doesn't help at all. I can only dream of a day when those things are granted by the government. I've considered packing up and leaving the country - but what's the point?
I salute you too, Filthy dear. 
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Although I am pro-choice in just about everything, I dislike abortion.
I dislike it too, for the simple reason I believe people need to learn responsibility, not just get rid of what they don't want, whenever they want. What I do favour is abort in cases of rape, risk for the mother and inability of the child to survive after birth (like the fetus that grew without developing a brain). |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 12:06:10 [Permalink]
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These two old gals are sitting in a cafe drinking coffee and gossiping. One askes the other, "Where's Pearl? I haven't seen her in a spell."
The other answers, "Oh, she's home in bed with her arthritis.
"Aha!", says her friend. "I knows them Ritis boys and that Arthur is the worstest one of the bunch!"
(Imagine a mushmouth, southern acccent.)
I hope it's not rhumatoid(sp?). That's indeed the worst of the bunch. Mine is all truamatic.
From your posts, I see that you intend to do something with your life. I salute you, sister.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 12:23:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
These two old gals are sitting in a cafe drinking coffee and gossiping. One askes the other, "Where's Pearl? I haven't seen her in a spell."
The other answers, "Oh, she's home in bed with her arthritis.
"Aha!", says her friend. "I knows them Ritis boys and that Arthur is the worstest one of the bunch!"
(Imagine a mushmouth, southern acccent.)
I hope it's not rhumatoid(sp?). That's indeed the worst of the bunch. Mine is all truamatic.
From your posts, I see that you intend to do something with your life. I salute you, sister.
lol!
It is rheumatoid. Juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (or whatever like that), all over the body. Thankfully it's controlled now, though it did cause some pretty bad damage on the bones... oh well. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 13:35:23 [Permalink]
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From time spent in VA hospitals, I've known some folks with rheumatoid. And perodically, I get tested for it, although most of mine is from a spinal injury. It's a large bummer.
You have my deep sympathy.
But it's easy to see from your writings that you're not going to let the bastard grind you down. Well done. Carry on!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Siberia
SFN Addict
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 13:57:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
From time spent in VA hospitals, I've known some folks with rheumatoid. And perodically, I get tested for it, although most of mine is from a spinal injury. It's a large bummer.
You have my deep sympathy.
But it's easy to see from your writings that you're not going to let the bastard grind you down. Well done. Carry on!
Thank you!
I won't let it take me down. I intend on finishing my studies (in two years I major in Computer Science), perhaps hunting that PhD and such and living my life to the fullest, as far as limitations go. Doesn't really bother me, I'm cool with it  So many good things on life to enjoy, wheelchair or not.
That is, if my country isn't casually burned by some psycho president with an eye on our forests, petroleum and the likes. -coughBushcough- |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 15:43:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
That is, if my country isn't casually burned by some psycho president with an eye on our forests, petroleum and the likes. -coughBushcough-
Siberia, if/when that happens, know that you are welcome to Sweden.
Currently people fleeing other countries to Sweden mostly ask for "political refugee" status, but once the army boots of Bush-controlled armies starts thumping, we'll probably start granting "intellectual refugee" status to people arriving at our gates.
Verlch, science is a dominant factor over here, and you'd be hard pressed to find friends. Literacy-rate is the highest in the world.
Income tax is 30% or more depending on your income (progressive scale), and everyone had basic health-insurance provided by state tax-money.
Even the only Christian party in the Swedish Parliament, Christian Democratic Party, accepts abortion in its official party-line.
Actually, all Swedish citizens pay tax to the Swedish Lutheran Church, who provide funeral services for all.
Starman, and Maverick, help me out with more things that would probably discourage Verlch from moving here...  |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 15:54:10 [Permalink]
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Well, if Bush gets another four years, I can only hope that teh US (and the world) survive it. Personally, I was considering a move to the land Down Under (or maybe New Zealand) in a worse case scenario.
One history professor once told me that the best way to tell if a government (or nation/empire/ect..) was near to collapse was to watch the academics, the academic community would start leaving in advance.
So, if you guys over there start getting an influx of US academics... |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Siberia
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 15:56:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by Siberia
That is, if my country isn't casually burned by some psycho president with an eye on our forests, petroleum and the likes. -coughBushcough-
Siberia, if/when that happens, know that you are welcome to Sweden.
Currently people fleeing other countries to Sweden mostly ask for "political refugee" status, but once the army boots of Bush-controlled armies starts thumping, we'll probably start granting "intellectual refugee" status to people arriving at our gates.
Verlch, science is a dominant factor over here, and you'd be hard pressed to find friends. Literacy-rate is the highest in the world.
Income tax is 30% or more depending on your income (progressive scale), and everyone had basic health-insurance provided by state tax-money.
Even the only Christian party in the Swedish Parliament, Christian Democratic Party, accepts abortion in its official party-line.
Actually, all Swedish citizens pay tax to the Swedish Lutheran Church, who provide funeral services for all.
Starman, and Maverick, help me out with more things that would probably discourage Verlch from moving here...
Sweden! I've considered there, though it looks a bit too cold for my tropical-adapted self. Then again... -considers the advantages- Yeah, they are rather tempting. I've friends in Sweden, too lol, maybe I will, someday. At least visit. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
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"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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