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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 09/30/2004 : 15:56:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
So, if you guys over there start getting an influx of US academics...
Are you kidding? Some are already here researching stem-cells...  |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
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SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 21:12:22 [Permalink]
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| Yeah, and they are in Singapore and Japan and several other places as well. Don't get me started on how stupid the current US policy on embryonic stem cell research is.... |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 21:31:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
verlch wrote:quote:
Men are called to love their wives as Christ loves the church.
And to not divorce them, hypocrite. Start living the Bible, verlch, before you preach it.
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 21:37:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
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Originally posted by verlch
The 'Lord of the Flies' will soon have one language, one religion (Roman catholic, ruled by illumanti), one bank, one government (UN controlled by elitists of all creeds) , one taxation system, one currency. This is exactly the way it was before the tower of Babel!
I'll put aside for a moment the tired claim about what it was like "before the tower of Babel" (like you'd know!), and ask you, verlch: who has your vote in the election?
Edited to add: I get a confused stance from you. On the one hand, you're against the moves towards a tighter control of this country by the elites-- i.e. the present administration, but then you're all about Kerry-and-feminists and how bad that is. So in the end, what's worse for you?
I guess I'll vote for the 4th reich! Bush. I plan on making a large enought sum of money to leave and begon with this place. I love it, but it seems our elite are a sell out to European's bigger elite. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 21:38:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
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Originally posted by Ricky
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Somewhere in the past there is family history between Kerry and Bush. Goes way back.
Woah, another assertion... what a surprise
Actually, the New York Times ran a story a few Sundays ago noting that the two are actually related! something like 9th cousins twice removed or some such. This of course doesn't mean that the two are in collusion or anything, but there is, in fact, a family history between them...
Plus they are both illuminati graduated from Yale, and are Skull and Bones. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 21:50:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by Siberia
That is, if my country isn't casually burned by some psycho president with an eye on our forests, petroleum and the likes. -coughBushcough-
Siberia, if/when that happens, know that you are welcome to Sweden.
Currently people fleeing other countries to Sweden mostly ask for "political refugee" status, but once the army boots of Bush-controlled armies starts thumping, we'll probably start granting "intellectual refugee" status to people arriving at our gates.
Verlch, science is a dominant factor over here, and you'd be hard pressed to find friends. Literacy-rate is the highest in the world.
Income tax is 30% or more depending on your income (progressive scale), and everyone had basic health-insurance provided by state tax-money.
Even the only Christian party in the Swedish Parliament, Christian Democratic Party, accepts abortion in its official party-line.
Actually, all Swedish citizens pay tax to the Swedish Lutheran Church, who provide funeral services for all.
Starman, and Maverick, help me out with more things that would probably discourage Verlch from moving here... 
Dr. M, I will move with a women to an island in the pacific, far away from the problems in the west and Europe. Carry on with your 40% run women government, and all you other so good stuff.
It seems like almost every man or women i've met from your neck of the woods thinks they have it better than anybody! Why? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2004 : 00:13:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
It seems like almost every man or women i've met from your neck of the woods thinks they have it better than anybody! Why?
Because we do!
It's as simple as that. When America went to market economy plutocracy, and the Russians enforced plan-economy communistic dictatorship, we synthesized both and got a democratic socialistic market economy. Over here schools, even university level studies are free. Our system is not goverened by rampart greed because people have to economic opportunity to persue almost any career of their desire. That's why I'm into electronics and computers and not studying to become an MD, even though my 'university acceptance test' gave me an all-go to practically any course of my desire.
This is something that I'm actually quite proud of. I made the top 2% of all participants in the "högskoleprovet", which represents about half of all University students. The other half comes from college, sorted by grades. I'm starting to rant. If you want to know more, let me know, I'd be happy to inform you. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 03:02:35 [Permalink]
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I guess I'll vote for the 4th reich! Bush. I plan on making a large enought sum of money to leave and begon with this place. I love it, but it seems our elite are a sell out to European's bigger elite.
Grab the money and run, leaving a turd behind you?
Whatever our differences verlch, I never figured you for a quitter. I am disappointed.
Me, while I am fond of the Bay of Fundy, up Nova Scotia way where I have friends, I'll stay and tough it out.
Edited to add that if you've never seen the flood tide come into the Bay of Fundy, you've missed an amazing sight. At some 30 to 40 feet, it is the highest in the world.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 07:54:12 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
They left me...
So what? Jesus doesn't say that divorce is okay if your wife leaves you.quote:
...O judge.
Fah. I'm not the one who's claiming that I believe in a book which tells me not to judge, meanwhile judging all the time. You are, and you're pretty bad at it. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2004 : 08:24:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by verlch
It seems like almost every man or women i've met from your neck of the woods thinks they have it better than anybody! Why?
Because we do!
It's as simple as that. When America went to market economy plutocracy, and the Russians enforced plan-economy communistic dictatorship, we synthesized both and got a democratic socialistic market economy. Over here schools, even university level studies are free. Our system is not goverened by rampart greed because people have to economic opportunity to persue almost any career of their desire. That's why I'm into electronics and computers and not studying to become an MD, even though my 'university acceptance test' gave me an all-go to practically any course of my desire.
This is something that I'm actually quite proud of. I made the top 2% of all participants in the "högskoleprovet", which represents about half of all University students. The other half comes from college, sorted by grades. I'm starting to rant. If you want to know more, let me know, I'd be happy to inform you.
That's it. I'm going to Sweden.
I'm not coursing Astrophysics as I desired because if I did, I'd probably starve (this is were Mr. V comes in telling how I'd be much happier if I had a loving, hard-working husband to make me bear a legion of his progeny while I bake cookies for them and do as he pleases and all that mid-50s propaganda, instead of using the mind genetics gave me and searching my own path, as I intend to do and will do) in this forsaken corner of the world. Computer Science was a second choice, though I love it dearly, I see it more like a hobbie.
Does that benefit extends to foreigners? |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2004 : 15:18:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
That's it. I'm going to Sweden.
I'm not coursing Astrophysics as I desired because if I did, I'd probably starve (this is were Mr. V comes in telling how I'd be much happier if I had a loving, hard-working husband to make me bear a legion of his progeny while I bake cookies for them and do as he pleases and all that mid-50s propaganda, instead of using the mind genetics gave me and searching my own path, as I intend to do and will do) in this forsaken corner of the world. Computer Science was a second choice, though I love it dearly, I see it more like a hobbie.
Does that benefit extends to foreigners?
I'm not sure, but there are exchange students from around the world, studying at the local university. So there definately are possibilities. You'll still need food to eat, and a place to sleep though.
http://www.twoworldsunited.com/twu/requirements_sweden.html
I'm not sure how relevant this is, because of your age, I can try to find other links also.
A google search for "exchange student sweden" provide lots of hits for info.
Edited to add: The only thing I had to pay for during the semester I read Astronomy and Astrobiology was the course literature. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 15:46:55 [Permalink]
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Oh, shucks. It says no older than 18... and I'm on the verge of twenty (in November, that will be). Besides, I've no money to move and my mother would probably die if I did. Damnit. Plus the idiom...
Maybe in the future. -dreamy sigh- |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 20:28:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
I guess I'll vote for the 4th reich! Bush. I plan on making a large enought sum of money to leave and begon with this place. I love it, but it seems our elite are a sell out to European's bigger elite.
Good plan. I, too, plan to make lots of money. Then, I'm going to go live on the moon. See you there! |
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verlch
SFN Regular
781 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2004 : 22:06:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
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Originally posted by verlch
It seems like almost every man or women i've met from your neck of the woods thinks they have it better than anybody! Why?
Because we do!
It's as simple as that. When America went to market economy plutocracy, and the Russians enforced plan-economy communistic dictatorship, we synthesized both and got a democratic socialistic market economy. Over here schools, even university level studies are free. Our system is not goverened by rampart greed because people have to economic opportunity to persue almost any career of their desire. That's why I'm into electronics and computers and not studying to become an MD, even though my 'university acceptance test' gave me an all-go to practically any course of my desire.
This is something that I'm actually quite proud of. I made the top 2% of all participants in the "högskoleprovet", which represents about half of all University students. The other half comes from college, sorted by grades. I'm starting to rant. If you want to know more, let me know, I'd be happy to inform you.
That's it. I'm going to Sweden.
I'm not coursing Astrophysics as I desired because if I did, I'd probably starve (this is were Mr. V comes in telling how I'd be much happier if I had a loving, hard-working husband to make me bear a legion of his progeny while I bake cookies for them and do as he pleases and all that mid-50s propaganda, instead of using the mind genetics gave me and searching my own path, as I intend to do and will do) in this forsaken corner of the world. Computer Science was a second choice, though I love it dearly, I see it more like a hobbie.
Does that benefit extends to foreigners?
I want some cookies lady? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 22:09:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
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Originally posted by verlch
I guess I'll vote for the 4th reich! Bush. I plan on making a large enought sum of money to leave and begon with this place. I love it, but it seems our elite are a sell out to European's bigger elite.
Good plan. I, too, plan to make lots of money. Then, I'm going to go live on the moon. See you there!
The bible says what does a man profit if he gains the whole world and looses his soul. God says to store your riches in Heaven and not earth. So the question is, can you take it with you when you die? No.
I want to move out of this land, avoid Europe like the plague and live somewhere that they don't believe in Evolution! Evolution is for the monkies! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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