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The Bad Astronomer
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 Posted - 11/01/2001 : 10:21:11 [Permalink]
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What's the deal with Mifletz posting private e-mail on the BA Board?
I have added some new rules to the FAQ; a couple of which I should have had up since the beginning. They should make this clear. Some people are not that familiar with board etiquette; I remember some painful lessons I learned back when the web was young.
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http://www.badastronomy.com
"With tremendous respect to [the] BA, the problem isn't getting scientists to talk, the problem can be getting them to shut up." |
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Dog_Ed
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2001 : 21:30:21 [Permalink]
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| The Hutchinson Effect, HDCC, and down the rabbit-hole...from the people who brought you Newman's Own Physicksой What's this doing on the BA bitch board? Well, someone mentioned the "Hutchinson Effect" as a possible mechanism propelling an aluminium-foil 'lifter' on one of the Against the Mainstream threads. So I thought I'd check it out. And down the rabbit-hole I went: John Hutchinson, "self-taught scientist," puts together high-voltage capacitators and Tesla coils and Van DeGraff generators. Then, as noted on altenergy.org, "In subsequent experiments with his equipment, 'fires started in unlikely places around the building; a mirror smashed at a distance of 80 feet away; metal distorted and broke; water spontaneously swirled in containers; lights appeared in the air and then vanished; metal became white-hot but did not burn any surrounding materials; and so on.' These effects reportedly occur only about 1% of the time 'and one can wait for days before anything happens.'" Huh? Am I expected to believe this? Well, researcher Richard Hull has found similar effects! Hull's main claim to fame seems to be an immense Tesla coil he named "Nemesis": visible here. (Jeez, look at those arcs! Now that's science!) But wait, Ken Shoulders has duplicated some of Hutchinson's work too, along the way to creating High Density Charge Cluster (HDCC) technology, as explained at rexresearch.com: "Shoulders describes the HDCC entity as 'a relatively discrete, self-contained, negatively charged, high density state of matter... [a bundle of electrons that] appears to be produced by the application of a high electrical field between a cathode and an anode.' He has given it the name 'Electrum Validum' (EV), meaning 'strong electron', from the Greek 'elektron' (electronic charge) and the Latin 'valere' (to be strong, having power to unite)...Though an EV is a discrete bundle of electrons, it prefers to communicate with other objects, and disintegrates if it has nothing to do." Only a real scientist could mix Latin and Greek, so this has to be on the level. I'll just Google on HDCC and make sure. Hmmm...David Faust, expert on Kirlian photography...nah...Dr. O'Leary and the Kaplans (lightparty.com) note that Shoulders' "...high-density charge cluster device produces more than thirty times greater output than input energy." Oh, good, so it's over-unity as well as communicative and easily bored. Dr. Brian O'Leary writes from Portland, Oregon, just up the road from me. I wonder how credible he is. On newfrontier.com, Sw. Virato writes: "It all started when he had a mystical experience at a Lifespring event back in the 70s. It was when astrophysicist turned into metaphysician. He found he was able to read the mind of another person, and another person read his as well....The author of three books on our connection to UFOs, and other realms of existence and consciousness, Brian O'Leary was trained as an astronaut by NASA to be on the Mars Mission, and now lectures world-wide on the new science." The new science, nothing at all like the old science that had those hard math bits all through it, right? OK, enough, the next website would surely be the Red Queen telling me she believes ten impossible things before breakfast. After this brief cruise I have to agree with Rift's siggie: "Goddammit! The world is just filling up with more and more idiots! And the computer is giving them access to the world! They're spreading their stupidity! At least they were contained before--now they're on the loose everywhere!"
"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes"
Edited by - Dog_Ed on 11/01/2001 21:31:06
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Torsten
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 11/01/2001 : 23:37:03 [Permalink]
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Dog_ed wrote:
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"Only a real scientist could mix Latin and Greek, so this has to be on the level. I'll just Google on HDCC and make sure. Hmmm...David Faust, expert on Kirlian photography...nah...Dr. O'Leary and the Kaplans (lightparty.com) note that Shoulders' "...high-density charge cluster device produces more than thirty times greater output than input energy." Oh, good, so it's over-unity as well as communicative and easily bored. "
Hey, it must be real because the US Patent Office has accepted it!
Some of those quotes in that rexresearch link are from the patent office, for example Ken Shoulders' US Patent 5,123,039 states:
"With the input pulse length reduced to 5 ns, for example, the corrected energy conversion factor becomes (16.div.5).times.30=96. That is to say, with the input pulse length reduced as noted, energy available at the output of the helix of the traveling wave tube is ninety-six times the energy input to the traveling wave tube, in addition to the energy consumed within the traveling wave tube and the energy available in the form of collected particles at the collector electrode.
Were patent officials dazzled by the mention of zero-point energy early in his claim, then lost and befuddled in the mountains of words through the middle of the document, thereby missing his over-unity claim near the end of the patent description? The description of the device really sounds similar to a spark plug.
Also funny, you'd think that somewhere, sometime a journal like Science would have picked up on this, but in searching their archives back to 1988, I find no mention of Mr. Shoulders.
LOL!
Other reading at Scientific American
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2001 : 07:56:29 [Permalink]
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In the latest Weekly World News:
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New Antichrist detector will keep you safe for just 3 EZ payments of $19.95, say Japanese inventors.
It apparently will be able to detect so-called "demonic energy."
"Our device is designed to pick up unusual wavelengths that would be inconsistent with an ordinary human being," Dr. Noburu Kanazawa explained.
When the gizmo recognizes that the Anitchrist is in close proximity, an LED flashes and an arrow point to where he - or she - is standing.
And expect a massive marketing blitz come Thanksgiving, with an offer of three payments of $19.95 via infomercials.
Blech!
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Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
Anybody have any idea whether this is true or not?
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'Anything can happen in December,' warn top psychics.
About frigging time someone said, "I have no idea," and actually meant it.
Also, there are no links on their web site or I would have linked to them.
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America]
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2001 : 10:34:56 [Permalink]
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In the latest Weekly World News:
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Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
Anybody have any idea whether this is true or not?
You're gonna drive me sane with this one. Searched NEJM. Since I have no journal date (how convienient for their website) I couldn't find anything on it. I will, however, mention that the NEJM has editorials and book reviews. Some books are of a somewhat dubious nature. It could be from one of those articles.
Commie, rotten, mutan WWN Bastards
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The Bad Astronomer
Skeptic Friend
137 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2001 : 11:49:56 [Permalink]
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New Antichrist detector will keep you safe for just 3 EZ payments of $19.95, say Japanese inventors.
This shouldn't be too hard to build. You just need a little bit of Christ in the detector, and when the anti-Christ is nearby the resulting annhilation will generate gamma rays.
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The Bad Astronomer
http://www.badastronomy.com
"With tremendous respect to [the] BA, the problem isn't getting scientists to talk, the problem can be getting them to shut up." |
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2001 : 19:31:10 [Permalink]
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New Antichrist detector will keep you safe for just 3 EZ payments of $19.95, say Japanese inventors.
This shouldn't be too hard to build. You just need a little bit of Christ in the detector, and when the anti-Christ is nearby the resulting annhilation will generate gamma rays.
"Annihilation"
Wouldn't that also destroy the person holding the detector?
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America] |
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
431 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2001 : 19:38:07 [Permalink]
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In the latest Weekly World News: Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
Purely in the interests of science, I'm willing to volunteer for a research study of this question. |
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2001 : 19:48:38 [Permalink]
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In the latest Weekly World News:
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Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
Anybody have any idea whether this is true or not?
You're gonna drive me sane with this one. Searched NEJM. Since I have no journal date (how convienient for their website) I couldn't find anything on it. I will, however, mention that the NEJM has editorials and book reviews. Some books are of a somewhat dubious nature. It could be from one of those articles.
Commie, rotten, mutant WWN Bastards.
I just checked the article I read this in again. No specific date, but I have a feeling it's within the past 5 years. Also, the researcher is a woman named Dr. Karen Weatherby from Germany.
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America] |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2001 : 00:56:16 [Permalink]
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New Antichrist detector will keep you safe for just 3 EZ payments of $19.95, say Japanese inventors.
This shouldn't be too hard to build. You just need a little bit of Christ in the detector, and when the anti-Christ is nearby the resulting annhilation will generate gamma rays.
"Annihilation"
Wouldn't that also destroy the person holding the detector?
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America]
Don't you think that's the point! Yeesh, get rid of the most fundamental of the 'Praise Gawd and Hail Mary' of the world. 
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying." ~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. |
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2001 : 22:50:10 [Permalink]
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New topic to bitch about. Talk about a guy totally missing the point. Who besides me thinks that this SAMU character is going to be a pain in the ass?
On the other hand, I'm really getting into the mostly troll-free environment of the new BA board.
Lisa
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2001 : 08:39:00 [Permalink]
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In the latest Weekly World News:
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Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
Anybody have any idea whether this is true or not?
You're gonna drive me sane with this one. Searched NEJM. Since I have no journal date (how convienient for their website) I couldn't find anything on it. I will, however, mention that the NEJM has editorials and book reviews. Some books are of a somewhat dubious nature. It could be from one of those articles.
Commie, rotten, mutant WWN Bastards.
I just checked the article I read this in again. No specific date, but I have a feeling it's within the past 5 years. Also, the researcher is a woman named Dr. Karen Weatherby from Germany.
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America]
My results from WWW.NEJM.ORG
Results are sorted by publication date.
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Author: WEATHERBY, K From: Jan 1975 through: Nov 2001 [ New search ]
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2001 : 20:18:21 [Permalink]
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In the latest Weekly World News:
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Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
Anybody have any idea whether this is true or not?
You're gonna drive me sane with this one. Searched NEJM. Since I have no journal date (how convienient for their website) I couldn't find anything on it. I will, however, mention that the NEJM has editorials and book reviews. Some books are of a somewhat dubious nature. It could be from one of those articles.
Commie, rotten, mutant WWN Bastards.
I just checked the article I read this in again. No specific date, but I have a feeling it's within the past 5 years. Also, the researcher is a woman named Dr. Karen Weatherby from Germany.
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America]
My results from WWW.NEJM.ORG
Results are sorted by publication date.
Search Criteria
Author: WEATHERBY, K From: Jan 1975 through: Nov 2001 [ New search ]
Save Search to Personal Archive
Search tips
Search Medline
Search across multiple journals
Browse past issues by date
Your search retrieved zero articles.
Ah, [beep]. Thanks anyway, VD. Crazy idea: wouldn't it be nice to participate in an experiment like that, though.   
"Hey Butt-Head check this book out! There's a talking snake, a naked chick, then some guy puts a leaf on his SCHLONG!!" [Beavis and Butt-Head Do America]
Edited by - James on 11/05/2001 20:19:20 |
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Espritch
Skeptic Friend
USA
284 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2001 : 20:26:40 [Permalink]
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Looking at a woman's hooters every day makes men live longer...says New England Journal of Medicine.
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Anybody have any idea whether this is true or not?
This may not be a statistically valid sample, but I've been doing this for years and I'm alive so far.
But what I really want to know is: did the article actually use the term "hooters"?
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 11/05/2001 : 20:43:01 [Permalink]
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But what I really want to know is: did the article actually use the term "hooters"?
Yeah...the NEJM always uses those highly technical medical terms |
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