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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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 Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:00:21 [Permalink]
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Something like $5.00/gal. in Kansas City. Can anyone confirm this?
Apparently. There are Attorney's General saying they are going to press charges.
All the gas stations here in Huntsville (AL, not TX) are backed up, because people are panicking, but prices (as of yet) haven't been raised.
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I'm very skeptical about what I hear on the tube but if this is true, is it not almost as bad as the terrorist acts themselves? The stupid speculation started early and hasn't stopped.
Er, surely you don't mean price gouging is comparible to killing 10,000 innocents? 
I mean, it's shitty and all, but come on!
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Hope springs eternal but there's no conviction
Actions mistaken for lip service paid
All this concern is the true contradiction
The world is insane...
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The Bad Astronomer
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:02:34 [Permalink]
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Donnie, just read over on BA about Spoq's post. I don't want to offend Phil, but part of me wants to go on that board and inform Spoq that this is not a good time for his troll bullshit nonsense.
Funny you'd say that. I just deleted that thread and sent a little note to Spoq.
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:04:38 [Permalink]
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:07:01 [Permalink]
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Does anyone out there know of any reason gas prices should go up at all? Was there a major refinery inside the World Trade Center or the Pentagon? Were oil fields somewhere bombed, too? Has some nation decided not to sell us fuel in the last few hours? Bah, what do I care. $10 of gas lasts me all month.
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
431 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:12:43 [Permalink]
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... Bah, what do I care. $10 of gas lasts me all month.
Bah back to you, @tomic :-)
A tank of gas lasts me 4 days tops.
As to why prices are going up (and you can bet they will), probably the same reason the markets are in trouble: uncertainty regarding the future.
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:20:31 [Permalink]
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Uncertainty? I suppose but as far as I know gas supplies were in no way effected by what happened today. Anyone that tries to make a buck off this in any way should be cut into little pieces and fed to pigs.
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gdaye
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:24:26 [Permalink]
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I was just reading a board called TimeBomb2000, where the far right-wing paranoids hang out. A couple of people there say the bombing was done by the UN, but most agree that it was orchestrated by the US government so they could declare marshall law (whoever he is) and take over the country.
First of all, I could have sworn the government ran the country now. Secondly, how come all these nuts can't spell 'martial'?
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:28:06 [Permalink]
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They're too busy with their brilliant deductions to waste their time spell checking.
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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Espritch
Skeptic Friend
USA
284 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:56:17 [Permalink]
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BA. Thanks for deleting the spoq post. I thought about putting a post on it asking you to delete it but I didn't want to give the little troll the satisfaction of a response. I really whish he would at least have the decency to stay under his rock at a time like this.
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:59:22 [Permalink]
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Does anyone else feel a little left out watching the US Senate chorusing(?) to 'God Bless America' on the steps of Capitol Hill? Shouldn't they, as thinking humans, be angry at God for not blessing us in the first place?
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 19:07:46 [Permalink]
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Hey, God's the responsible party right? Who was looking the other way when all this was going down?
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Piltdown
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 19:17:30 [Permalink]
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I was just reading a board called TimeBomb2000, where the far right-wing paranoids hang out. A couple of people there say the bombing was done by the UN, but most agree that it was orchestrated by the US government so they could declare marshall law (whoever he is) and take over the country.
First of all, I could have sworn the government ran the country now. Secondly, how come all these nuts can't spell 'martial'?
Nolle Illegitimus Carborundum
Decades of creeping insanity are finally coming home to roost. The terrorists undoubtedly know about these lunatics, and the dissension that conspira-wackies and other non-rational elements are capable of causing. Some idiot has posted another wacko message at BA, declaring that "thermonuclear Armageddon" will result if Bush takes strong action in retaliation. Do these people ever leave their retro-60s pop-culture fantasies behind?
Newt Gingrich suggests that President Bush ask Congress for a declaration of war against "terrorist organizations and their sponsors". This is, I suppose, justifiable at one level, but it is too open-ended in terms of the action it would allow the government to take under the provisions of wartime emergency.
At the same time, I am in favor of the most severe measures we can take against the international terrorist networks and those who harbor them. In the past, our reaction has been muted by the diplomatic and public relations costs of really drastic action. We are way beyond that now. The reality of this seems not to have sunk in yet. This is the worst attack on Americans in history, several times worse than Pearl Harbor and dozens, perhaps hundreds, of times worse than any previous attack on American civilians. I suspect that the military response to this will eventually dwarf anything seen since World War 2. I think that it should.
As skeptics, we are in a good position to use our critical thinking skills and our networks to help counter the spread of rumor, panic, and hysteria. As others have indicated, there are already many signs of this. There are long lines at gas stations here in Lubbock. I heard someone claim that a hospital where her sister works had rounded up all of its "Middle-Eastern" employees and sent them home. There is panic buying at local grocery stores, as though terrorists were going to cut all the roads leading into town. As for the conspira-liars, they may break themselves and their looney empire by attempting to exploit this situation.
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Dog_Ed
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 19:17:45 [Permalink]
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BA, a third thanks on deleting Spoq's post. After I replied I regretted it, thinking perhaps another #$@%$ flame war would be the result.
Listening to a conservative radio show just now: "We are at war! What will it take for our country to close the borders? To stop the flood of refugees from every garbage can country in the world? To reassert English as our only language? ... We must atomize the training camps of these terrorists! We must atomize them now!"
So the right-wing testosterone-powered idiots are already up, riding the wave and hoping to gain listeners and line their pockets. This is a big opportunity for Michael Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and all the other demogogues. Bathdardth! But, I rant.
I hope the wiser heads in the Bush white house will prevail. Colin Powell is a good man, and Cheney has an oilman's sense of realpolitik, so perhaps we can avoid lashing out and killing a bunch of women and kids in some refugee camps or poor Afghani villages. To perpetuate senseless killing would be a terrible insult to the memory of those who died today.
"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes"
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Boron10
Religion Moderator
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2001 : 22:32:40 [Permalink]
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Within a few hours of the attack, there was a student here at the University of Idaho (aka the middle of nowhere) who got on a telephone on campus and started threatening every local group or organization who was even remotely connected with the Middle East. The police had to strap him to a stretcher and send him away in an ambulance because he was so hysterical. This is nonsense. Nobody knows (or those who do don't want to tip their hands) who is responsible for planning this. Why the sudden anti-arabism?
On a side note, this may be the perfect excuse to level every single training camp of every known terrorist, and take out the Taliban, as well. (Half kidding)
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2001 : 22:45:17 [Permalink]
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Sorry, i'm gettting into this thread late, but yes some strange things are happening in Kansas City.
Gas prices here, about 30 miles from KC is around 2.50 (it was a buck cheaper yesterday). There are rumors that in KC itself it is up to 8.00 a gallon in places.
The really stupid thing is that KC is a oil refinery hub. We have gas coming out of our ears.
I'm on empty, but I think I'm gonna rely on relatives to get around until things get more sane :)
It doesn't make any sense, and I expect it is either scumbags trying to make a fast buck off of fear, or just honest to goodness fear and people panicking.
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