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Storm
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 Posted - 03/03/2006 : 14:15:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
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What kind of ghostly phenomenon? Full blown apparitions or just poltergeist activity, or both? What phenomenon did you experience? Can you fully discount absentminded placing the tan meter there?
I did not see any full blown apparition..Although the present residents have...Poltergeist activity...Could be the woman who resides in the house... she was the one who mostly saw the full apparitional type phenomenon... YesI can fully discount absentmindedness..
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 15:19:01 [Permalink]
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Storm stated: quote:
YesI can fully discount absentmindedness..
How is it that can you "fully" discount absentmindedness? Just by saying so? It seems to me that having picked up the wrong meter by accident would be a simple explanation, and would not reflect badly upon you. But jumping to "poltergeist" as the explanation shows very poor reasoning. How could you possibly, and with certainty, discount having picked up the wrong meter? Do you have a video recording of your movements, which you've double-checked?
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2006 : 11:36:15 [Permalink]
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Well have not been around awhile...Working..cleaning..beaching...But today I have some time.
originally posted by Dave W
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No, the best you came up with was "a ghost is an apparition which..." but since "apparition" means "ghost-like figure," your definition needed definition, which you never supplied.
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let us not say "never" Dave. I must disagree. I have discussed numerous times what.. through my research and the research of others a ghost is? Residual energy of a past event.
Originally posted by Dave W
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You're very quick, Storm, to jump to conclusions about what skeptics will think of a certain situation. You should try - sometime - to just tell one of your stories, without trying to figure out what the skeptics will say. You're not very good at that part.
I am not quick to jump to conclusions about what skeptics will think. You have said it outright what you think. Especially of theories and beliefs concerning ghosts. I do try that is why I come to this site and post these certain forums.
Originally psoted by Halfmooner
How is it that can you "fully" discount absentmindedness? Just by saying so? It seems to me that having picked up the wrong meter by accident would be a simple explanation, and would not reflect badly upon you. But jumping to "poltergeist" as the explanation shows very poor reasoning. How could you possibly, and with certainty, discount having picked up the wrong meter? Do you have a video recording of your movements, which you've double-checked?
No by the others I was with remember me putting the meter in my bag. I have jumped to no conclusions, including a poltergeist one. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/17/2006 : 15:14:28 [Permalink]
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Storm said:
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let us not say "never" Dave. I must disagree. I have discussed numerous times what.. through my research and the research of others a ghost is? Residual energy of a past event.
And here we are again. Right back to your nonsensical nonsense.
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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 10:40:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm:
I have discussed numerous times what.. through my research and the research of others a ghost is? Residual energy of a past event.
How is this energy measured? What are it's properties? How does it interact with matter? How can you convert this energy to work? What repeatable test can you conduct to demonstrate that this "residual energy" exists? What testable predictions does your theory make? |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 03/18/2006 : 15:55:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by R.Wreck
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Originally posted by Storm:
I have discussed numerous times what.. through my research and the research of others a ghost is? Residual energy of a past event.
How is this energy measured? What are it's properties? How does it interact with matter? How can you convert this energy to work? What repeatable test can you conduct to demonstrate that this "residual energy" exists? What testable predictions does your theory make?
Since the energy produces visual images, how do we recognise these images? Is the energy converted into photons for our eyes to observe, or does the energy directly interfere with the cognitive processes in the brain to produce a hallucination of a ghost? |
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 03/19/2006 : 16:38:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
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Right back to your nonsensical nonsense.
I wouldn't say nonsensical.
Originally posted by R. Wreck
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How is this energy measured? What are it's properties? How does it interact with matter? How can you convert this energy to work? What repeatable test can you conduct to demonstrate that this "residual energy" exists? What testable predictions does your theory make?
I do not have the answer to some of these questions. One thing about the theory is that it has not been able to be measured or repeated,well at least a controlled repitition. it has only been observed, photographed . But the numerous observations of the public and photographs leads me and others to believe sosmething is happening in these haunted locations. Most observations are of the non communicative type. An apparition of a person or persons usuallly in period clothing. These non communicative apparitions show no awareness to others around. It leads investigators to beleive that maybe the body eminates some type of energy that is captured in the environment to be replayed at a certain times to those who are called "Sensitive" for not everyone sees a ghost.
We have not discovered all the mysteries of the Universe. Look at how long it took us to understand radio waves but yet they always existed. So too with residual energy |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/19/2006 : 22:12:01 [Permalink]
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That makes more sense than Storm's explanation of ghosts.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 03/20/2006 : 06:19:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
Originally posted by R. Wreck
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How is this energy measured? What are it's properties? How does it interact with matter? How can you convert this energy to work? What repeatable test can you conduct to demonstrate that this "residual energy" exists? What testable predictions does your theory make?
I do not have the answer to some of these questions. One thing about the theory is that it has not been able to be measured or repeated,well at least a controlled repitition.
Then it's not a theory. It's conjecture.
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it has only been observed, photographed . But the numerous observations of the public and photographs leads me and others to believe sosmething is happening in these haunted locations. Most observations are of the non communicative type. An apparition of a person or persons usuallly in period clothing.
Yup. Conjecture.
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These non communicative apparitions show no awareness to others around. It leads investigators to beleive that maybe the body eminates some type of energy that is captured in the environment to be replayed at a certain times to those who are called "Sensitive" for not everyone sees a ghost.
"Replay" hauntings have had stories about them for millenia. So what? How does that relate to the energy conjecture that you are adhering to? How does it provide even anectdotal evidence for the energy conjecture that you are adhering to?
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We have not discovered all the mysteries of the Universe. Look at how long it took us to understand radio waves but yet they always existed. So too with residual energy
No we don't have all the answers. But the answers we do have are based on observation and measurements. You don't have a measurement methodology that has any studies to back it up. How do you expect to attach any sort of validity to a conjecture that has no measurement methodologies? |
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