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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
630 Posts |
 Posted - 03/15/2002 : 18:10:52 [Permalink]
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This is a topic that creationist won't give up. You have to understand that creation has to be true for there religion to work. Just as much as Jesus had to be a real person and everything that the Bible says he did has to be true. If it isn't true then their belief system falls apart and suddenly they don't know what will happen when they die. It is fear that motivates them to continue with their beliefs. Of course, that is just my opinion. However, I was deeply entrenched in that belief system for 20 something years. So I feel ok saying that. Just a little bit on how Christains think.
I don't think so. Most of the christians I know don't belive in creationism. They push their God in the gaps science has left unfilled and are happy with that.
Even the Pope 'believes' in evolution and the big-bang. The Religious people don't need evolution to be wrong any more then they needed a geocentric universe. They will adapt sooner or later. Their beliefsystem won't fall apart that easily. They will ignore what they can't fit into it. They will try to supress what they can't ignore. And they will say that it was their opinion all along if they can't supress it.
Not even God coming down from the heavens himself to tell people, that he never send any son of his to be crucified, will convince a true believer that his religion is in the wrong.
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NubiWan
Skeptic Friend
USA
424 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2002 : 16:44:26 [Permalink]
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(Gad, why do me do it?)
"Creationists" are equivalent with fundalmentalists, in that they insist upon a literal, verbatim, interpretation of the 'written word' of god, (SIC!) as written by man.
Lars_H, tink ya've got it half right, assuming that you really are trying to understand the mind set of "religous" people. Speaking for only me own self, yes, my beliefs do 'adapt' to the evidence of science. Currently, there is a 'slop factor' of a couple of billion years, on the guesstimate of the age of the universe, something like 12.5 to 15 billion years. Because it isn't scientifically precise, does that mean we should throw out all the hard evidence, that has led to the current estimate. Of course not. This range of a guesstimate is relatively recent in human history, say within the last hundred years or so.
Creationist are relying on a cosmological model, put forth, (what?), a couple of thousand years ago. Allowing for the context of their times, can't we give the writers of the "word," the same sort of 'slop factor?' The point of a person's religion, is not to answer the question of the age of the universe, but to give form and shape to the concept of the creator of it all. And attempt to answer, "Why are we here?" God, it as come to be known and accepted, is the term, where these feelings of awe, reverence and a profound humility, are invested.
Yes, my God does fill in the gaps, but you'ld be mistaken, if you thought he was absent in a strand of DNA, for instance, at least in my eyes. Science reveals the mechanisms of His, Her's, Their, or perhaps It's, creation, but it doesn't remove an iota of the universe's wonderous miracle of being.
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." -Voltaire |
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