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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:12:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Liz W:

"This was not what I requested from you Rumtopf."

Kil demanded a discussion Liz. And now that we have the makings for a discussion, that is what Kil is going to get!
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:13:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Liz W:

"Our discussion is in full swing."

All right then!

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.


Who is right - Dave W or Liz W?

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LizW
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USA
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:14:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Liz W:

"This was not what I requested from you Rumtopf."

Kil demanded a discussion Liz. And now that we have the makings for a discussion, that is what Kil is going to get!

You do not seem to be aware that this IS the discussion. It is your turn to provide your proof.

You learn something new every g****mn day!
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:15:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No Liz, this is our discussion:


# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.


Who is right - Dave W or Liz W?

(And what is Kil waiting for? What is he so afraid of?)
Edited by - Rumtopf on 01/20/2014 15:17:18
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LizW
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:17:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Liz W:

"Our discussion is in full swing. It is happening now"

All right! Finally a real discussion!


# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.


Who is right - Dave W or Liz W?


No...see your not catching on. I am the one you are having the discussion with. I have given answers and you are not holding up your end. Proof please.

You learn something new every g****mn day!
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:19:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No...see your not catching on. This is what we're discussing:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.


Who is right - Dave W or Liz W?

(And what is Kil waiting for? What is he so afraid of?)
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LizW
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:21:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

No...see your not catching on. This is what we're discussing:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.


Who is right - Dave W or Liz W?

(And what is Kil waiting for? What is he so afraid of?)

This is an invitation to evaluate answers. You are supposed to be providing proof. Proof please.

You learn something new every g****mn day!
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Kil
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:23:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rumtopf:
Well Kil, I must have missed it. Please tell me, in your own words, what you don't understand about the following questions:

Where did I say that I don't understand the questions? Please find where I said that and quote me.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:23:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Liz W:

"This is an invitation to evaluate answers."

Yes it is. Let's evaluate the answers that have been given to date:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.

It will be interesting to see what Kil's answer will be, because then we can have a consensus!

BTW, does anyone know why he's so afraid to answer a simple question?)
Edited by - Rumtopf on 01/20/2014 15:24:33
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:26:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kil:

"Where did I say that I don't understand the questions?"

Oh, I'm sorry Kil, did I misunderstand you?

Let's be clear right here and right now:

Do you understand them?

Do you have the integrity to answer them if you do?
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LizW
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:27:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Liz W:

"This is an invitation to evaluate answers."

Yes it is. Let's evaluate the answers that have been given to date:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - He can't summon up the integrity to answer.

It will be interesting to see what Kil's answer will be, because then we can have a consensus!

BTW, does anyone know why he's so afraid to answer a simple question?)



proof
NOUN:

The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.
The validation of a proposition by application of specified rules, as of induction or deduction, to assumptions, axioms, and sequentially derived conclusions.
A statement or argument used in such a validation.
Convincing or persuasive demonstration: was asked for proof of his identity; an employment history that was proof of her dependability.
The state of being convinced or persuaded by consideration of evidence.
Determination of the quality of something by testing; trial: put one's beliefs to the proof.

Proof please.

You learn something new every g****mn day!
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:29:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here they are Kil:

# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__

# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__

# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__


Kill, do you understand the above 3 quesitons? - Yes. - or - No.

Do you have the integrity to answer them if you do? - Yes. - or - No.
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LizW
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USA
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:32:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Here they are Kil:

# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__

# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__

# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__


Kill, do you understand the above 3 quesitons? - Yes. - or - No.

Do you have the integrity to answer them if you do? - Yes. - or - No.

I understood them and I answered them. Now you are required to address my answers by proving them valid or invalid. Proof please.

You learn something new every g****mn day!
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:33:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kil:

"Why don't you summon up some integrity and actually engage in an honest debate or discussion?"

You got it Kil.

Kil, let's you and me discuss the different answers that Dave W and Liz W gave to the following question:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__


LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Who do you think is right Kil?

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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  15:36:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Liz W:

Originally posted by Rumtopf

Here they are Kil:

# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__

# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__

# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__


Kill, do you understand the above 3 quesitons? - Yes. - or - No.

Do you have the integrity to answer them if you do? - Yes. - or - No.

LizW:

I understood them and I answered them. Now you are required to address my answers by proving them valid or invalid. Proof please.


It seems Kil / LizW is getting confused on which questions to answer!

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