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Dave W.
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 Posted - 01/18/2014 : 21:04:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rumtopf
Then what are you waiting for Dave? |
Bigger fish to fry.
Why haven't you asked Caroline Sturdy Colls your questions? Why are you afraid to ask an actual scientist? |
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Why not question something for a change?
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/18/2014 : 21:35:49 [Permalink]
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Dave W:
"Besides, if I answer Greg Gerdes, I can get $70,000"
Then what are you waiting for Dave?
What are you so afraid of?
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/18/2014 : 21:38:31 [Permalink]
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It looks like fill in the blank and yes or no questions are too hard for kil to understand. Poor guy. But maybe he has the brain power to understand true or false questions. Let's find out. Kil, for the second time:
# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__ |
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Dave W.
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Rumtopf
Banned
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Posted - 01/18/2014 : 23:45:31 [Permalink]
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Dave W:
"Besides, if I answer Greg Gerdes, I can get $70,000"
Then what are you waiting for Dave?
What are you so afraid of? |
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Rumtopf
Banned
126 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2014 : 23:49:05 [Permalink]
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Five Very Simple Investigatory Questions About Caroline Sturdy Colls Suspiciously Vague Archaeological “Investigation” at Treblinka II
(Legitimate scientists do not fear answering pertinent questions about their claimed discoveries.)
# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
# 2 - At Treblinka II, it is known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - that, to date, no more than and no less than __?__ extant graves have been discovered, in which legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators have - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented forensic science - literally / truly - physically unearthed / tangibly located - actual, verifiable, scientifically proven human remains.
Dave W's answer - ZERO
# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
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It is an irrefutable fact that “archaeologist” Caroline Sturdy Colls did not actually locate / prove the existence of a single real grave that contains the remains of so-much-as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies.
Do you deny the above irrefutable fact Dave W? Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 01/18/2014 : 23:51:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rumtopf
It looks like fill in the blank and yes or no questions are too hard for kil to understand. Poor guy. But maybe he has the brain power to understand true or false questions. Let's find out. Kil, for the second time:
# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Kil's answer - __?__
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You're fucking kidding me, right? You expect me to play your silly game with you without you asking me nicely? You come to my house, insult me and then want me to play? That's not going to happen. You will either ask me very nicely or no dice. Those are my terms. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/18/2014 : 23:55:15 [Permalink]
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It looks like fill in the blank and yes or no questions are too hard for kil to understand. Poor guy.
But maybe he has the brain power to understand true or false questions. Let's find out.
Kil, for the fourth time:
Five Very Simple Investigatory Questions About Caroline Sturdy Colls Suspiciously Vague Archaeological “Investigation” at Treblinka II
(Legitimate scientists do not fear answering pertinent questions about their claimed discoveries.)
# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
Kil's answer - Kil doesn't understand yes or no questions.
# 2 - At Treblinka II, it is known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - that, to date, no more than and no less than __?__ extant graves have been discovered, in which legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators have - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented forensic science - literally / truly - physically unearthed / tangibly located - actual, verifiable, scientifically proven human remains.
Dave W's answer - ZERO
Kil's answer - Kil doesn't understand fill in the blank questions.
# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand true or false questions.
Kil's answer - __?__
# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand true or false questions.
Kil's answer - __?__
# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand true or false questions.
Kil's answer - __?__
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It is an irrefutable fact that “archaeologist” Caroline Sturdy Colls did not actually locate / prove the existence of a single real grave that contains the remains of so-much-as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies.
Do you deny the above irrefutable fact? Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
Kil's answer - Kil doesn't understand yes or no questions.
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 01/19/2014 : 03:11:55 [Permalink]
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As far as I'm aware Collins just used Radar to determine the size of the burial pits (you know, those places where Nazi war criminals testified to burying their victims). Actually doing a body count will probably never happen since there are restrictions on exhuming Jewish graves and because the bodies were cremated and not buried individually anyway.
If not being able to count bodies is something we can all agree on, then please move on from this topic. It's not going anywhere. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/19/2014 : 07:26:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
As far as I'm aware Collins just used Radar to determine the size of the burial pits (you know, those places where Nazi war criminals testified to burying their victims). Actually doing a body count will probably never happen since there are restrictions on exhuming Jewish graves and because the bodies were cremated and not buried individually anyway.
If not being able to count bodies is something we can all agree on, then please move on from this topic. It's not going anywhere. |
Oh, it wasn't going anywhere from post one. Rumtopf is trying to discredit Caroline Sturdy Colls' work by suggesting that she had claimed somewhere to have found "buried bodies," when it's clear she's never done so in her actual publications (which Rumtopf hasn't read and so refuses to cite, despite implying that Sturdy Colls has claimed to have "scientifically proven" something or other). He's further trying to explain away what has been found as latrine or garbage pits used by the Nazis and/or as trenches dug by thieves after the war, and he's also suggesting that any cremains found might have been deposited after the occupation. The courtroom testimony, of course, would be dismissed as having been coerced from the Nazis by those evil Jews running those kangaroo courts.
But of course, he's too cowardly to actually state any of those things. Instead, he's JAQing off. The one claim he's made, 'Orthodox historians allege that the remains of approximately 900,000 people are currently buried in 11 extant “graves”...' he absolutely refuses to support with any compelling evidence whatsoever. He just copy-pasted some mass-media hyperbole that misrepresents Sturdy Colls' work. He couldn't even come up with the name of a second "orthodox historian," despite his own voluntary use of the plural.
And even though Rumtopf asserts this is all about scientific fraud, he doesn't understand how science works or even what evidence is, and he doesn't seem to be the least bit interested in learning. His "questions" depend upon the people answering them being similarly ignorant, so he doesn't actually need to know (just like his knowing what "moot" means would hamper his attempts to discredit me). Being honest and curious would just get in the way of his agenda. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/19/2014 : 11:12:18 [Permalink]
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Dave W:
"Besides, if I answer Greg Gerdes, I can get $70,000"
Then what are you waiting for Dave?
What are you so afraid of? |
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Rumtopf
Banned
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Posted - 01/19/2014 : 11:47:50 [Permalink]
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On fire for christ:
| As far as I'm aware Collins just used Radar to determine the size of the burial pits |
First off On fire, it's Colls, no Collins. But I'm very interested in having a discussion with you about these so called "burial pits" you say Colls found. (She had to have found them if she was able to determine their size - right?) And I would like to discuss the alleged size with you as well, but that will come after we determine how many actual graves were found. So let's not confuse the issue here. We're talking about the alleged graves claimed to have been discovered by Colls or anyone else. I want to find out if Colls, or anyone else, has actually found any mass graves at Treblinka II. So, On fire for christ, please answer the following simple question:
# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__
On fire for christ:
| Actually doing a body count will probably never happen |
Again On fire, don't confuse the issue. We're talking about alleged mass graves at the moment. We can talk about body count later. I want to find out how many actual graves have really been found at Treblinka II. So, On fire for christ, please answer the following simple question:
# 2 - At Treblinka II, it is known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - that, to date, no less than __?__ extant graves have been discovered, in which legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators have - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented forensic science - literally / truly - physically unearthed / tangibly located - actual, verifiable, scientifically proven human remains.
On fire for christ:
| If not being able to count bodies is something we can all agree on, then please move on from this topic. It's not going anywhere. |
You of course are free to move on On fire for christ, but I'm looking for some very simple answers to some very simple questions. There's one more question I would like to ask you On fire for christ:
It is an irrefutable fact that “archaeologist” Caroline Sturdy Colls did not actually locate / prove the existence of a single real grave that contains the remains of so-much-as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies.
Do you deny the above irrefutable fact? Yes. - or - No. __?__
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/19/2014 : 12:07:31 [Permalink]
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# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
# 2 - At Treblinka II, it is known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - that, to date, no more than and no less than __?__ extant graves have been discovered, in which legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators have - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented forensic science - literally / truly - physically unearthed / tangibly located - actual, verifiable, scientifically proven human remains.
Dave W's answer - ZERO
# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand how to answer true or false questions.
# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand how to answer true or false questions.
# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand how to answer true or false questions.
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It is an irrefutable fact that “archaeologist” Caroline Sturdy Colls did not actually locate / prove the existence of a single real grave that contains the remains of so-much-as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies.
Do you deny the above irrefutable fact Dave W? Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 01/19/2014 : 12:17:34 [Permalink]
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Rumtopf:
I want to find out how many graves have actually been found at Treblinka II. |
This is a funny place to look for that answer, don't you think? Gosh. If it were me, I'd be asking the people who actually do the research on whatever the subject is. I'd be looking at what they have to say on the subject. The last place I would look is on an internet forum unless I knew that experts in the field post there. So I'm guessing that saying "I want to find out how many graves have actually been found at Treblinka II" is as dishonest as the questions are.
Just sayin'. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/19/2014 : 12:19:26 [Permalink]
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It looks like fill in the blank and yes or no questions are too hard for kil to understand. Poor guy.
But maybe he has the brain power to understand true or false questions. Let's find out.
Kil, for the fifth time:
Five Very Simple Investigatory Questions About Caroline Sturdy Colls Suspiciously Vague Archaeological “Investigation” at Treblinka II
(Legitimate scientists do not fear answering pertinent questions about their claimed discoveries.)
# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
Kil's answer - Kil doesn't understand yes or no questions.
# 2 - At Treblinka II, it is known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - that, to date, no more than and no less than __?__ extant graves have been discovered, in which legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators have - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented forensic science - literally / truly - physically unearthed / tangibly located - actual, verifiable, scientifically proven human remains.
Dave W's answer - ZERO
Kil's answer - Kil doesn't understand fill in the blank questions.
# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand true or false questions.
Kil's answer - __?__
# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand true or false questions.
Kil's answer - __?__
# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
Dave W's answer - Dave doesn't understand true or false questions.
Kil's answer - __?__
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It is an irrefutable fact that “archaeologist” Caroline Sturdy Colls did not actually locate / prove the existence of a single real grave that contains the remains of so-much-as - 1 / 1,000 of 1 % - of the alleged buried bodies.
Do you deny the above irrefutable fact? Yes. - or - No. __?__
Dave W's answer - No.
Kil's answer - Kil doesn't understand yes or no questions. |
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Archaeological Fraud At Treblinka
