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Snake
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 Posted - 04/12/2002 : 02:06:24 [Permalink]
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It didn't help my telling her I thought some of the aspects of the worship service had cultish overtones - whoooeeee, that really pissed her off!
LOL. Wish I could have seen that. Seems to me more women than men are really religious, not just going through the motions, so to speak. And they do get more upset when that belief is questioned. I think if someone has to get mad like that, means they either aren't leaning to be kind to others as the bible teaches, I think it does, never read it though. Or they are deep down, worried they don't have a strong enough faith and react out of fear that they could loose it. That would mean they have been wrong and no one like to admit they've been wrong for so long.
Guess you have to know when and where AND what to say to certain people, so as not to get in trouble. That's something I CAN'T help you with, 
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Tim
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USA
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Posted - 04/12/2002 : 04:52:23 [Permalink]
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Jesus, please understand that I in no way meant to imply that you were not educating your daughter properly. In fact, I feel just the opposite. My intent was to suggest that the discussion of other religions, or pseudosciences may be welcomed by your wife, considering Christianity's intolerance and hatred of these subjects in today's society.
Usually, I try not to confront the absurdities of biblicists directly. They seem to take this as a personal attack, and revert back to scriptural admonitions against rational thought.
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Lisa
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/13/2002 : 10:04:52 [Permalink]
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I couldn't vote. To tell you the truth, I have no idea what Ed believes. I've never bothered to ask. On one hand, he just joined the Elks, where belief in a supreme being is mandatory. On the other hand, he admitted his reasoning for joining is solely based upon their golf course.
He claims to be a skeptic, but there are times when I think his critical thinking skills are a little cracked. We're still arguing about the CSI episode with the psychic investigator. (Guess which side I'm on?)
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Jesus
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USA
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Posted - 04/13/2002 : 10:38:32 [Permalink]
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I want to thank you all for your sugestions . The most amazing thing about my wife(not really married been there done that lost everything)is I don't really know what she believes creation? evelution? Alien offspring I just don't know ,she never wants to talk about it.She is not a church goer has not been once since iv'e known her.One thing I do know is elementery school scares her.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2002 : 22:06:09 [Permalink]
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AFA you daughter is concerned, teach her to say gesundheit instead of god bless you. It means the same in thing in German, but given how people are nowadays, I prefer it because hardly anyone knows what it is
It doesn't mean the same thing as god bless you. In German it mean good health, really has nothing to do with god.
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2002 : 22:17:54 [Permalink]
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PHdreamer:
"Let's see; so that means she can summon Cthulu with a mental spell while playing basketball in Boston?"
HEY! Do not connect the Great Cthulhu with New-Age woo-woo crap!
The results would be....unspeakable.
As for the question, no significant other, but I doubt that I could sleep with a YEC. Or a fundie. Or a crystel-swinger. Even if they were really, really cute.
However, I once thought that I could never sleep with a Republican. Perhaps...naw. Definatly never a YEC or a crystel-swinger.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 01:03:21 [Permalink]
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A water bearer in India had two large pots, each hung on the ends of a pole which he carried across his neck. One of the pots had a crack in it, while the other pot was perfect and always delivered a full portion of water. At the end of the long walk from the stream to the house, the cracked pot arrived only half full. For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his house.
Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its
accomplishments, perfect for which it was made. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.
After 2 yrs of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream. "I am ashamed of myself, and I want to apologize to you. I have been able to deliver only half my load because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your house. Because of my flaws, you have to do all of this work, and you don't get full value from your efforts,"the pot said.
The bearer said to the pot, "Did you notice
that there were flowers only on your side of the path, but not on the other pot's side? That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back, you've watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate the table. Without you being just the way you are, there would not be this beauty to grace the house."
Moral:
Each of us has our own unique flaws. We're all cracked pots, but it's the cracks and flaws we each have that make our lives together so very interesting and rewarding. You've just got to take each person for what they are, and look for the good in them.
Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
Remember to appreciate all the different people in your life!
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James
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 05:23:19 [Permalink]
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AFA you daughter is concerned, teach her to say gesundheit instead of god bless you. It means the same in thing in German, but given how people are nowadays, I prefer it because hardly anyone knows what it is
It doesn't mean the same thing as god bless you. In German it mean good health, really has nothing to do with god.
Oh, thanks, Snake. I did not know that. I guess that's what you get for not taking German in either jr. high or high school. 
And a beautiful story in your last post. 
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 08:09:48 [Permalink]
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And a beautiful story in your last post.
Wait, wait Sahib… if you will but put a copper in my bowl I will tell you the rest of the story of the Parse and the cracked pot.
As the days wore on the Water carrier saw the flowers grow on the side of the path on which he carried the cracked pot. "It is pretty," said the Water carrier, "I like all the bright colors. This is nice. I do not bring all the water I planed, but there is no real harm done and this feels pleasant."
But, oh most beloved, in this world if one puts their faith in a cracked pot one is doomed. For it came to pass that one day while passing the flower bed the crack, as cracks will do, burst open, flooding the flowers and killing them. Now, with his load unbalanced, the Water carrier dropped the unblemished pot smashing it upon a stone, and twisting his own back.
With no pots and with an injured back to prevent him from carrying water even if he did find a new vessel, the Water carrier, and his family, soon starved to death. There were no flowers left to place on their graves.
Do not, oh most gracious, be distracted by pretty colors. And do not place your faith in cracked pots or the unbalanced. For it is written that they will lead you to disaster no mater how pleasing they may seem at first.
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It will sometimes be necessary to use falsehood for the benefit of those who need such a mode of treatment.
----Eusebius of Nicomedia,
The Preparation of the Gospel
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 10:54:36 [Permalink]
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Oh, thanks, Snake. I did not know that. I guess that's what you get for not taking German in either jr. high or high school.
You're welcome James. I did study German for a short time but I also checked with an on line friend who was born there and he told me that's is correct.
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And a beautiful story in your last post.
Thanks again. I think I've seen it before but recently someone resent it to me, so I wanted to share.
And Geesss, Slater, what a bummer you are. That's not what happened at all. Cracks can be reparied enough to keep working. So the pot did go on to function and be useful. New things become old so the perfect pot soon looked as tatered as the cracked one from bumping around while being carried, so then there were two beds of flowers, one on each side of the road.
There was more the beauty for all the Cracked pots being there.
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James
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 13:54:24 [Permalink]
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And a beautiful story in your last post.
Thanks again. I think I've seen it before but recently someone resent it to me, so I wanted to share.
You're welcome.
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Cracks can be reparied enough to keep working. So the pot did go on to function and be useful. New things become old so the perfect pot soon looked as tatered as the cracked one from bumping around while being carried, so then there were two beds of flowers, one on each side of the road.
There was more the beauty for all the Cracked pots being there.
Indeed. 
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scumbagio
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 16:56:26 [Permalink]
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It didn't help my telling her I thought some of the aspects of the worship service had cultish overtones - whoooeeee, that really pissed her off!
LOL. Wish I could have seen that. Seems to me more women than men are really religious, not just going through the motions, so to speak. And they do get more upset when that belief is questioned. I think if someone has to get mad like that, means they either aren't leaning to be kind to others as the bible teaches, I think it does, never read it though. Or they are deep down, worried they don't have a strong enough faith and react out of fear that they could loose it. That would mean they have been wrong and no one like to admit they've been wrong for so long.
Guess you have to know when and where AND what to say to certain people, so as not to get in trouble. That's something I CAN'T help you with,
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scumbagio
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 04/17/2002 : 17:22:51 [Permalink]
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I just left a relationship like this. She was raised and brainwashed severely by her church and mother. She decided to go back to church and I thought about going with her but it wasn't me. I even tried to pretend that I at least beleived in God but she wants me to be a full fledged Baptist. No way!! Her church is weird (I'll write about it in a new topic sometime, It'll be a long one. they are very cult like, I think alittle inbreading as well. thanks
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broven
New Member
USA
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Posted - 04/23/2002 : 12:18:04 [Permalink]
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Seems to me more women than men are really religious,
...And in some other thread the concensus was that religious folks are less intelligent than Athiests. I guess that proves men are more intelligent than women. Aha! I knew it. . .
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Trish
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Posted - 04/23/2002 : 12:40:50 [Permalink]
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...And in some other thread the concensus was that religious folks are less intelligent than Athiests. I guess that proves men are more intelligent than women. Aha! I knew it. . .
Don't be so cock-sure of yourself there. Could be that it's also commonly more acceptable for women to be more religiously concerned than for men. Or the thing I hated hearing most with me in school, and I railed against with my daughter, that's not a field for a woman or women just aren't as good as men in this or that subject. The studies showing women were better in language arts and men were better in math and sciences. I think that the problem lies with teaching kids this from day one when they enter school. Soon, this will go away, when get all those folks out of the schools that were raised with this kind of thinking. Same difficulty in changing the thought process here as with extreme religion or new age wackiness or any other irrational belief that is accepted under the commonly fallacious thinking that the majority must be correct. I'm doing my part to change/prevent that thinking with my kid.
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