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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
 Posted - 06/19/2001 : 13:27:58 [Permalink]
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I actually think, that the fact that NASA is not using the MARS FACE to justify the exploration of Mars, is a proof that they are attempting to cover something up.
Ummm, what kind of sense does that make? There is not anything to the mars face, that's why they aren't using it to justify going to mars.
The sad matter is that the public needs something sensational to back going to mars in the first place. Isn't exploring another planet, which may have life (albiet more primative then what is capable of building the face) a sensational enough reason?
The reason they aren't using the face is because the majority of scientists DON'T think it is artifical, and they would come off looking as stupid as Hoagland. As Malin said(i'm paraphrasing here), there are some amazing things on mars, lets go study THEM and not worry about the face which is more along the lines of the loch ness monster then serious science.
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 06/19/2001 : 19:47:40 [Permalink]
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I was an electronics troop, so I'll take care of any neat lights and sound you'll need. Ed's in ammunitions, he'll provided the cool pyrotechnics. A little chaff and flare would liven things up nicely. If you're talking Bell and Hoagland, our only problem will be keeping Ed from using live ammo. 
Yeah, we could electronically lock the doors, thanks to you Lisa, and Ed(Shadowman) can use the ammo for crowd control. And if they still wanna rise up, we can let Ed loose on them.  
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
358 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 04:17:16 [Permalink]
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I would suggest preparing some chemicals that would cause mild irritation and maybe some mild burning.
Might be good at making them think the UFO is giving off radiation.
Really scare them.
Also I am wondering if there is anyway of wreaking film while its in the camera?
I've had polariod film wreaked by an X-ray machine so something along those lines might work.
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 05:59:42 [Permalink]
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Well my brother's orginal idea was, as a cover, have a ufo investigation team. Who better to fake the stuff? Have his four year old daughter walk around a "crash site" in little space boots, stuff like that. Low level radioactives (just enough to make giger counters go nuts) is painfully easy to get at unversities... :) Of course, we'd invite real investigators to help verify our findings :) Pick up cows, place them on the other sides of fences, maybe put little four year old glow in the dark handprints on them. Lots of ideas :)
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Bozola
Skeptic Friend
USA
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 08:37:02 [Permalink]
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These are people who believe that photographs of the reflections of lamps in windows are real alien spacecraft.
These are the people who even after the crop-circle pranksters disclosed their methods as they were making the circles to reporters, they still believe that crop-circles were made by either "energy vortexes" or aliens.
I think we're overestimating them.
Materials:
All you really need is a large fishbowl with some antenna taped to it. A cheap coverall would help, too, and don't forget to sew a patch on the shoulder, proclaiming in english, what planet you're from.
Directions:
Go somewhere near Area 51 along the "alien highway".
Wear the coverall.
Place fishbowl over your head.
Stand by the highway and make "beep-beep" sounds and say "I'm from {name of planet} whenever anyone slows down.
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It works every time.
Bozola
- Practicing skeet for the Rapture.
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
2102 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 13:27:22 [Permalink]
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Hey Rift! There's a jarhead here who wants to get in on the fun. I got Lisa covered on the electronics. Plus I played with chaff too...at least the control systems. I worked on airplanes too!
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
431 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 14:05:49 [Permalink]
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I already said above that I want to help with this...I don't have any experience with explosives, but do have a sound/electrical background.
That is, if you don't mind help from a rude tourist...
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Bozola
Skeptic Friend
USA
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 14:58:29 [Permalink]
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Rude because anonymous posters use of an email site that supports or are spammers.
Rude because anonymous posters use sites that don't police abuse.
Tourist because anonymous posts are ephemera on the net.
If you are using a pseudonym at a responsible provider like MSN or AOL, you are not anonymous. Their webmasters can find you and hold you accountable for spam, threats, etc... you may make. If you are using Hotmail or Yahoo, you deserve the grief you recieve.
Don't like my opinion? Too bad.
Bozola
- Practicing skeet for the Rapture.
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 15:42:25 [Permalink]
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Rude because anonymous posters use of an email site that supports or are spammers.
Rude because anonymous posters use sites that don't police abuse.
Tourist because anonymous posts are ephemera on the net.
Bozola
- Practicing skeet for the Rapture.
Edited by - Bozola on 06/20/2001 14:59:20
I don't know what exactly what/who Patch is, except an idiot. Claims to be female, but this means nothing. For simplicity, I'll refer to it as "she".
When she posted demanding an apology from you, my first impression was "WTF?" Then I read her whole post and was really taken aback. To my knowledge, there has never been anyone on the BA board who has made gender an issue. Posting moon hoax, speed of light, or Egyptology idiocy is an issue, not the sex of the poster. Now I'm sorry I didn't slam her to the mat when I had the chance. I just assumed she and Gauss (who, despite denials, I think are the same person), were a la Piper, post for a few days and then go away.
Lisa
Chaos...Confusion...Destruction...My Work Here Is Done |
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Espritch
Skeptic Friend
USA
284 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 18:54:03 [Permalink]
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It's a Pharaoh, It's a lion, it's ultraman, it's a grey, it's a guy holding a baby, it's a kitty, it slices, it dices, it makes julian fries.
It's obviously an alien Rorschach test. Them ancient astronauts are conducting a psychology experiment
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
431 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 19:45:48 [Permalink]
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To my knowledge, there has never been anyone on the BA board who has made gender an issue. Posting moon hoax, speed of light, or Egyptology idiocy is an issue, not the sex of the poster.
You're right, Lisa. In all the time I've been visiting the BA board, no one's ever raised a ruckus over gender, age (Megan and Caity), nationality or any other ephemera.
With one recent exception, the regular posters there have always impressed me as clear-headed, nonprejudiced and patient.
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 20:19:19 [Permalink]
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I still say Patch is Gauss/Computer Org.
And somebody needs to give Keith some tranqs...
Who died and made him the board police?
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 22:46:02 [Permalink]
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Hoagy's been busy again today... 3 new links on his page.
From http://vgl.org/webfiles/mars/face/04-2001-2/4-01-2.htm
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What the new images have revealed, I think, is evidence of a possible artificial origin so intriguing that archaeologists would be calling for a sustained and rigorous investigation if it were not for the
present oppressive intellectual climate.
Are these people looking at the same picture I am???
And from http://members.home.net/dentra/planet.htm a picture that makes Boz's pic look sincere... 
Last and least, an artist joins in with this gem at http://www.enterprisemission.org/quandary.html
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In this process, we observe two basic types of
scientists:
(1) the "visionaries / hunters" -- who are willing to risk it all. Galileo, Tesla, and Hawking are obvious examples of this group.
(2) the "scientific priesthood" of "linear thinkers / gatherers" -- who perpetuate and maintain the accepted models, creating stability for the system, yet
at times stifle fundamental growth -- by closing off the visionaries through their stubborn attempt to "maintain the status quo" (the peers of Galileo,
Tesla, et al.)
Guess which category she places NASA and us in? BTW funny how Hawking's name got dropped in the last part...
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James
SFN Regular
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2001 : 22:55:36 [Permalink]
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And from http://members.home.net/dentra/planet.htm a picture that makes Boz's pic look sincere...
Why am I reminded of the movie "Planet of the Apes" when I look at that pic?
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Last and least, an artist joins in with this gem at http://www.enterprisemission.org/quandary.html
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In this process, we observe two basic types of
scientists:
(1) the "visionaries / hunters" -- who are willing to risk it all. Galileo, Tesla, and Hawking are obvious examples of this group.
(2) the "scientific priesthood" of "linear thinkers / gatherers" -- who perpetuate and maintain the accepted models, creating stability for the system, yet
at times stifle fundamental growth -- by closing off the visionaries through their stubborn attempt to "maintain the status quo" (the peers of Galileo,
Tesla, et al.)
Guess which category she places NASA and us in? BTW funny how Hawking's name got dropped in the last part...
Thought, from what you posted here, Hawking was in the first group. Might be seein' things.
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2001 : 00:09:54 [Permalink]
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I honestly don't know, Rift, about Hoagland and how he turned out this way...
....too much LSD when he was younger?....or
He was bottle-fed koolaid and acetone?...or
He suffers for erectile dysfunction which causes a massive brain
brain-infarction?...or
He accidently read the book "How to be a Space Scientist" upside-down?...or
As a child he was dared if he could eat 150 mothballs in an hour and won?...or
He suffers from a incredibly bizare genetic mutation that causes
him to use his higher brain function only when Halley's comet appears?...or
He was teased on the playgrounds for drawing faces on dirt and rocks?...or
He's actually on the payroll for MAD magazine?...or
When a child, he sneezed, farted, and burped at the same time?
Any other ideas guys?
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