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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 09/23/2004 : 22:26:55 [Permalink]
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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verlch
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Posted - 09/23/2004 : 22:48:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
He's inhaling freon I think.
Your just blind as a bat. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 05:36:22 [Permalink]
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I wonder if the ancient egyptians have their trademark/copyright/patent at hand. Such, um, unconstructable geometric forms surely need a LOT of explanation.
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"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 07:02:51 [Permalink]
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Your just blind as a bat.
And you're smokin pcp laced grass. You can't even defend the inconsistencies in your own little fantasy that you throw up here...
Well, let's put it this way. If Noah, or any of his sons were masons, then it's by divine will that those dastardly masons still exist! I mean, why would god kill every human on earth and then let a mason or two live.... if he was so pissed at the masons?
So, you're acting against the will of god when you call the masons evil and oppose their secret agenda. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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tw101356
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 08:04:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Your just blind as a bat.
You are aware, of course, that the Christian fish symbol that so many people love to display on their cars is actually an ancient pagan fertility sign? Just turn the fish so that the head faces down and you get a yoni.
As for the Masons, they're nothing more than a false front put up to provide cover for the Illuminati, who themselves are the mask in front of the Lizard People. You need to read some Robert Anton Wilson and David Icke. Those third rate web sites you're quoting fnord barely pull one layer of skin off the onion before proclaiming that they have exposed the truth.
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 10:51:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Verlich said:
Your just blind as a bat.
Bats aren't blind.
Wrong again....
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 11:08:12 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
quote:
Verlich said:
Your just blind as a bat.
Bats aren't blind.
Wrong again....
Well I don't know what planet your on, but bats have sonar and not eyes. Hence the figure of speech. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 13:06:04 [Permalink]
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Yeah, verlch has made the "bats are blind" claim before. He apparently completely ignored the facts presented to him back then. I guess he's got faith that bats don't have eyes, and so to him, it's a "fact" that they don't. Also apparent is his inability to have enough faith that it would be a "fact" that his (ex)wife would be more of a "Christian" woman. So sad.
But anyway, it'd be nice if he could quote chapter-and-verse from the Bible where it claims that bats are blind. As far as I'm aware, the Bible's only claim about bats is that they are birds. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 13:37:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Yeah, verlch has made the "bats are blind" claim before. He apparently completely ignored the facts presented to him back then. I guess he's got faith that bats don't have eyes, and so to him, it's a "fact" that they don't. Also apparent is his inability to have enough faith that it would be a "fact" that his (ex)wife would be more of a "Christian" woman. So sad.
But anyway, it'd be nice if he could quote chapter-and-verse from the Bible where it claims that bats are blind. As far as I'm aware, the Bible's only claim about bats is that they are birds.
Yeh, it's old shit. I seem to recall touching him up on it myself, lo these many pages and posts ago.
Bats have eyes and see quite well, thank you. Some primates of our species too, have eyes but see not at all. And some are clouded by the spirit, see well enough, but fail to comprehend.
I grow bored.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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ejsaunders
New Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 14:02:55 [Permalink]
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Hello all
Firstly, new here but not to the 'big debate', having been through many of the worlds religions at one time or another (now deciding whether or not Christianism is actually all its cracked up to be - http://web2.airmail.net/capella/aguide/errors.htm is some great help particularly the one with the HUGE list of errors, also includes the tree/hanging from one of the posts above, about half way down).
Anyway, I'd like to throw into the mix that God did create another woman before Eve but she refused to be dominated by Adam during sex and then became an incubus (remember that the bible is only the most recent collection of the stories and lore of the Palastinian/Y'srael area there are many 'banned' books still in existance in the Vatican Secret Library, and of course, consider the Book of Enoch about the half-God giants).
Also, the giants thing - it says categorically in the bible that they existed before AND after the flood, and that most scholars believe nowadays that the flood was only a local event (the med crashed thru and created the Dead Sea) thereby meaning that other humans probably carried on living elsewhere. Also note that the bible is very sexist, females are very iinferior to males and aren't even allowed to speak in temples and various other things that are truly helping me on the road to ex-Christian. Its amazing just HOW much you can read that is abhorant if you take the time, and since its inspired, it must be true, right? 
So, basically, Adam did have a first wife, so there may be more humans about from them, or Eve did have a lot more sex and created sisters which are not mentioned because of them being women and everything, and of course, giants lived before and after the flood, so Masons could have a link via the giants, which are technically the reason for the flood, so thats why God despises masons!
I think that sums everything up 
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ejsaunders
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ronnywhite
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 18:03:06 [Permalink]
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I'm trying to understand a logic in all of this, and the best I've been able to ascertain is "Incest wasn't a big issue because sin hadn't thoroughly infiltrated, contaminated, and propagated in the genepool." Ah, enlightenment! Yea, sure, I gotta be kidding... man, I just have NO aptitude for fundie science (but then again I could never paint worth a damn, either.)
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Fundies will often use this "the bible is free to omit certain details" argument whenever it suits them"
Well, that clears a lot of things up... I could get to work faster, with less frustration, through traffic jams if I just deleted (or temporarily negated) that annoying parallel postulate, too. Why didn't that occur to me before? The gas I could have saved!
Hombres, I give up. My brain's just not wired for fundie stuff.
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CourseKnot
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 18:33:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
quote:
Originally posted by tw101356
The answer appears to be pretty mundane. A single sentence in here explains that the shape was chosen to fit between existing roads at the original location.
Yeah....roads built by Freemasons! This building had to have been planned for centuries! Do you not now see the lengths to which these men will go?
lol
Actually, it's kind of fun to play the "Verlch" role. I get to be hysterically alarmist and no research is required. Try it!
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ejsaunders
New Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 05:38:09 [Permalink]
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I also heard somewhere that it was designed partly because of the shape of the land and that they required a building that would take up less 'space' but be able to be defended or some sh*t at all angles or something like that. Come to think about it, I'm sure it was on a masonry website... 
Can I also recommend if anyone wants to look at the bible but doesn't want to learn all the bad transliterations or read Hebrew they visit the Brick Testament (http://www.thereverend.com/brick_testament/) its Lego, but its inerrant what could anyone want more of! Oh and it might start a whole new porn industry on the web, which may or may not be a good thing.
Anyway, back on track the incest in the bible doesn't just stop at Adam and Eve, as someone has said, later on two ladies get old wossisname (read Lot) sozzled and give him the ride of his life. How though do they explain him being godly if he wants his daughters raped by Sodomites and then ends up portioning them himself?. The bible certain smacks of favoritism.
Consider that Solomon, David and Abraham (amongst others) had multiple wives when got had partially prohibited polygamy (*quality link about sex in the bible http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/long.htm) |
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